having misfire problems with 3rd cylinder, I got code p0303 and another code that said problem before 1st 1000 revs.
Jun 24, 2011 at 5:44 PM
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P0303: Check the no.3 cylinder's -sparkplug, compression and injector-let me know
Jun 24, 2011 at 7:31 PM
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I swapped spark plug and wire from cylinder 2 and put them on 3 and problem still came back to cylinder 3. I checked compression on cylinder 3 and it was over 100psi in first stroke and 150 in next and so on up to 200psi with engine off and just cranking with throttle open.
Jun 24, 2011 at 9:45 PM
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Coil packs on all plugs?
Swap it to another, see if misfire changes cylinders.
Recently had same similar issue with Wifey's '03 Escape---I do not know your rig, but I hope you do not have to disassemble the engine, as I did, just to get to the back 3 plugs!
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Continue to follow RAZ'S instructions....these new things kill me!
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Jun 25, 2011 at 12:02 AM
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Medic, if its COP it doesn't have S/P wire -DIS or TFI Ignition system?? You got a lot of car problems hang in there -I'm also responding to your New Yorker
200 psi-lil too muchy-could be a carboned-up cylindercausing it to raise. Have you check the injector-try checking its solenoid resistances and spray pattern/PWM
Jun 25, 2011 at 1:10 AM
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Ok, I will check "injector coil" resistance and compare with other injector,
do you think the misfire on cly3 is spark or fuel injector related?
Note: problem seems to be more repetitive and less intermittent now than a few weeks ago.
Jun 25, 2011 at 1:49 AM
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Dunno yet-till you check it
Jun 25, 2011 at 2:33 AM
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I checked injector resistance and they all seemed to be around 12.4 Ohms including #3.
I also checked injector spray on #3 and it came out as an even cone pattern. I tested injector spray by supplying voltage to the injector. where do I go from here?
Jun 27, 2011 at 1:36 PM
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Inspect and test the camshaft and crankshaft position sensor
Jun 27, 2011 at 11:19 PM
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I am ready to do that, I'v tested sensors like that before. I think They all have three wires. can you give diagram, and while I rotate engine what wires should I be checking for.
question: will a bad crank sensor repeatedly trigger the #3 cylinder misfire? I reset dtc's three times back to back before working on engine.
Jun 27, 2011 at 11:34 PM
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Jun 28, 2011 at 12:02 AM
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each of the sensors have two wires. I checked the resistance on the crank sensor, and while rotating I got ohms from 1250 ohms to 130 ohms. At all positions not moving I got 642 ohms.
for cam sensor it was at 591ohms not moving, and 830ohms high side and 450ohms on low side
Jun 28, 2011 at 1:59 AM
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Not too sure -I don't have the specs for it-Have you check the sparkplug wire resistances on no.3 if not do so-
Jun 28, 2011 at 2:30 AM
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when I started diagnosing the problem I swapped the plug and wire from cyl#2 and put on cyl#3, and #3 to #2. Code always came back to cyl#3 repetitive.
whats causing the cly#3 to set?
Jun 28, 2011 at 3:16 AM
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Test the coil resistances primary and secondary windings for no.3
Jun 28, 2011 at 6:48 AM
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I think it could be the waste system. do you have diagram? thanks
Jun 28, 2011 at 11:34 AM
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I checked the three places for primary resistance all being consistant at 1 ohm. secondary seemed infinite on all. I look closely at #3 coil tower for cracks, din't see any.
Jun 28, 2011 at 12:50 PM
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Here are some readings I got from plug wires in ohms.
Try swapping injector for no.3 and see if i moves-
Jun 28, 2011 at 5:53 PM
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yes I swapped it around. Have not tried it yet because upper manifold is so hard to remove just tring to get every thing done before it goes back on.
I also checked wires pcm to injectors and pcm to ign coil. All wires are fine with no opens and ohms at .5, I will see how injector swap goes and post results.
Jun 28, 2011 at 6:29 PM
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put it all back together and It still says misfire on cylinder #3
Do you know if a bad crank sensor would set off a code for just cyl #3 ?
Jun 28, 2011 at 9:30 PM
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Hard to say what's causing the no.3 to misfire I know you're doing your best. Shoot it in the dark replace the CPS don't work have the computer reflashed
Jun 28, 2011 at 9:55 PM
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that's just what I did I bought a cps and I'm going to install it now. was a cheap one with 2 year warrenty at $20
Jun 29, 2011 at 12:21 AM
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I put in a CPS and cyl #3 still misfires.
If PCM randomly fails to send a ground pulse to the coil then cyl #6 should show up as a misfire as well, right?
It's pointing to the PCM, but not shure.
I'm going to try some other stuff.
Let me know if you have any ideas. thanks
Jun 29, 2011 at 1:11 AM
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I found the problem, It was the intake manifold runner linkage. It came off so I bought a clip and put it back on. I feel more power and no shakes, check engine light is off and not blinking.
I found it by accident when I was checking for plugged EGR passages.
Not shure why it was specifically setting cylinder #3
Runs good now.
Jun 30, 2011 at 2:25 AM
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Glad you got it running you came a long way-Good Job