starter not working

First let me be sure we're talking about the right parts. The starter relay is in the under-hood fuse box and is rather hard to hear. The starter solenoid is built into the starter and commonly makes a single, rather loud clunk, but the starter wont spin the engine. Where exactly did you jump, and if the starter was spinning, was it cranking the engine? It sounds like the neutral safety switch may have failed here it the starter wiring diagrams so you can see how the system works.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-use-a-test-light-circuit-tester


See where you are loosing power. Check out the diagrams (Below). Please let us know what you find. We are interested to see what it is.

Thanks for responding there are multiple relays under hood against fire wall on drivers side next to battery. When turning key. starter relay will make a click sound each time I move the key to start it. The relays on my car are little black boxes that looks like little electrical plugs but not like a fuse or fuse box i. I checked out the neutral safety and it was bad I got new one and BAM all fixed!

Glad you could get it fixed, that kind of problem can be tough. Please use 2CarPros anytime we are here to help.

I had this problem it was the neutral safety switch

The car will not turn over, I have replaced the alternator about 2 months ago and just replaced the battery yesterday. When you turn the key the car will not make any noise as far as the starter. The radio, lights ect will come on but will not start? what could be causing my car not to start?

Check for power to the starter and starter solenoid. If both have power, replace the starter. If not, determine why.

ok next question where would the starter and starter solenoid be found out on the car?

The solenoid is mounted on the starter. The starter is a black and silver/grey part that is round and mounted on the side of the engine where it meets the transmission. Follow the big red wire from the battery. It's usually down low, where it can be removed from underneath. I can't find any pictures showing where it is, and I've slept a few times since my last Plymouth Acclaim starter job.

Hi, I have 1993 Plymouth Acclaim, I drove it to work the other day and it ran fine but when I got off work it wouldn't start. When I turn the key to start I get nothing. I have checked the battery,the relays, and the fuse links, they all seem good.

I'd have to be sure the battery has a full charge and all the connections are good. Did you try cranking in neutral? Check for voltage at the starter relay, when testing, make sure the tranny is in park or neutral and a functional e-brake is set. At the relay, red wire is hot/voltage all the time. Yellow wire goes hot with key in the crank position.

Tested the relay, I get voltage to the yellow wire when I crank but the relay doesn't click. Tested a couple of the other relays they do the same.

What about the red wire should be hot all the time?

Yes red wire always had power.

Sorry, yes the red wire is always hot.

while driving down the road, without warning, it cuts off. if you are still rolling and in gear and the key remains on, it will come back on sometimes. most of the time you have to pull over and try for 10+ minutes before it will restart. turns over fine, just wont start for a while. this happens whether the engine is hot or cold. also, it seems to go in and out of overdrive alot. i just replaced the governor/solenoid pack. it does better now, but still not exactly right. i don't know if these 2 problems are related. any help would be appreciated. thanks guys.

Hi:
Going in and out of OD is common when you get around 40+MPH. On the other hand, the shut down is not. Have you had the fuel pump pressure checked? Does it seem to die mor often under a load (like going up a long hill)? One final question. Have you had the computer scanned for codes?

Joe

The ground for the coil side of relay is through the neutral switch. No ground, the relay won't energize. If you use a jumper on the left side of relay picture between red wire and brown wire, the starter should crank. You don't have to use the key. If it still won't crank, have the starter tested. Some of the national brand autostores will test the starter for you. Yeah, you have to take it off and take it to them.

Any testing at the relay, make sure the tranny is in park or neutral and the e-brake is set. I got nothing else, have a good day.

Havent had fuel pump checked, but the timing is not so much under a load. It cut off once up a hill, other times just going down the road at normal speeds and/or at idle at a stop light. 4 times in the yard. Had the codes checked; none in the computer. I guess my next step will be to have the fuel pump/pressures checked. Thanks for the advise!!

I tried that and the starter cranks, I was thinking maybe ECM. Thankyou

Hi:
Let me know what you find. The best time to do it would be when it won't start. Also, make sure you're geting spark to the plugs when it dies.

I'm thinking issue with neutral switch?

The thing cut off in the yard. End result-no fire coming from coil when it acts up. Told by a few people it could be the ignition module or the ecm. also had one guy say something about the ignition switch. I'm clueless. Any suggestions?

1990 Plymouth Acclaim 6 cyl Two Wheel Drive

car turn over but not firing

Hi:
Yes, if you are not getting spark, and the coil is dead, it could be the ignition relay or what you said.

Was there no power to the coil at all?

Joe

check the asd relay switch it out with one next to it. it will be in your relay center

if this don't do it prob have a bad crank senso pick up or ecm

No power whatsoever to the coil. After 10-20 minutes it will start. Where is the coil relay located and what might it look like? I'm not familiar with these mitsubishi engines. I'm certain the problem is somewhere in the ignition system, pinpointing it is quite a challenge. I appreciate all the help you guys are giving.

where is rely located how do check it

Hi Again:
If you want to see what the ignition looks like, go to this web page:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/mitchell1eautorepair-car-repair-manuals

At this point, it could be several things. It could be a relay, crank sensor, ignition module... without the proper tools, we're stuck. I don't want you to throw money into things that won't fix the problem.

I hate to say it, but maybe it needs to go to a dealer to be checked.

Let me know what you think.

Joe

Before you send it to a dealer, let me ask some of the other guys about this and see if they have any recommendations.

Joe

it sounds like there is a relay or the ecu is not working when hot but here is were the relay box is on your car, Under hood, driver side, front side of strut tower, mounted on fenderwell when it is not starting you should see a ignition relay in that box pull it and with volt ohm meter check for contonuity and see if yuour getting voltage to that relay put on 20 volt and see if your getting 12 volts if not it would be the ecu and when it gets hot it shuts down till cooled off the ecu is located Under hood, driver side, front side of strut tower, mounted on fenderwell and now that I think about it it could also be the ignition control module located Under hood, passenger side, upper engine area, end of intake manifold, mounted in distributor now try this test

Fig. 1: Ignition coil terminal identification-3.0L Premier and Monaco engine If voltage is at near-battery voltage, and drops to zero after 1-2 seconds of cranking, refer to for diagnostic trouble codes and further testing. If voltage remains at near-battery voltage during the entire 5 seconds, turn the key OFF and remove the Single Board Engine Controller (SBEC) 60-way connector. Check the 60-way connector for any loose or pushed out terminals.

hi guys!

sorry it took so long for me to respond, but we were workingon the car as money permitted. we replaced the ignition module, and so far it seems to be the problem. has not cut off, and we have driven it 1000 miles or more since the repair. thanks so much for your help guys! much appreciated! happy holidays!